Comments on: grappling with cultural citizenship

By: trine

trine — Thu, 15 Jun 2006 19:26:11 +0000

“mythical ‘total’ word count business”

made me laugh out loud. sounds sensible

david has charmingly volunteered me to present a paper at a research seminar at Sussex in the autumn. i know it’s nothing big but it still scares me. your thesis is really starting to sound interesting (ok that sounds like it didn’t before, which isn’t quite what i meant to say, but I;m sure you get what I mean…)

By: Jeff

Jeff — Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:34:35 +0000

Jean,
Marshall (in “Class, Citizenship, and Social Development”) splits citizenship between Civil (equality before the law), Political (the practical access to the Civil), and the Social (‘universal’ economic and social rights). Chris Rojek (in “Decentring Leisure”) talks about the disjunction between the first two, citing Stonehenge as an example of dispute over access and rights. I raise this disjuncture because I wonder how much ‘affective practices’ can lie outside possession? Will you post on this in more detail?

By: Jean

Jean — Thu, 08 Jun 2006 04:10:02 +0000

Luca – thanks! I’m still daunted…I’m trying to find a way to map the social relationships between both users and images, but it’s hard for a non-maths person.

Funlub – I didn’t mean that cultural citizenship doesn’t entail rights and responsibilities – it does of course. What I meant was that in order to mobilise the concept in a useful way, I conceive of it as a lived practice rather than a ‘thing’ you can possess or not possess. And you’re right in the sense that I’m talking about affective practices and relationships, rather than reducing everything that’s valuable about citizenship to rational debate. Pleasure is certainly a big part of that, and yes, fun too!

By: FunLub

FunLub — Wed, 07 Jun 2006 22:52:03 +0000

First quote seems as though it can’t bring itself to say the word “fun”. If it’s about participating in cultural participatory life, and it doesn’t entail rights or responsibilities then it’s… enjoyment?

By: Luca

Luca — Wed, 07 Jun 2006 05:53:53 +0000

I’m not so sure abot how comments works on flickr… so I comment here to answer your question (so you’ll surely notice it). That picture was a created starting from the related tags of flickr. You explore flickr using the tags feature (eg you ask for Europe), then you take all the “related tags” and ask for each of them. So you’ll get a first connected round of concept (blu in my picture) and a secondary connected group of concepts (yellow). Later you can sort the concept in more intellegible groups (green cards). The method is more or less the same that you can read here http://www.rashmisinha.com/archives/2005/02/.
After the counting phase I’ve also analysed the concept with a sw for network analysis… the results is incredibly similar to the pic I’ve posted.

hope it helps