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	<title>Comments on: vernacular literacy</title>
	<link>http://creativitymachine.net/2006/07/12/571/</link>
	<description>A personal research blog about vernacular creativity and technology by Jean Burgess.</description>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
		<link>http://creativitymachine.net/2006/07/12/571/#comment-30503</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 03:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>arvind, I think we are indeed on the same page.  In this very small study, I am dealing with my own immediate local and temporal contexts, but trying to keep diachronic and synchronic contexts in the frame. There are, as you suggest, important dynamics of difference across cultures especially in relation to the place that a globalised mass-popular has in each context - and, I would suggest, those dynamics of difference are even more important within each context than is commonly acknowledged.  Totally agree as to 'a highly sophisticated form of coded knowledge' (as opposed to 'pre-knowledge' or 'pre-literacy' as some people would have it) but not so sure about 'unambiguous comprehension'.  I think it's really productive to see the vernacular as a rich site of negotiation and contestation - but it's often implicit in ways that the 'rational' public sphere isn't.  Anyway, would love to hear more of your thoughts/examples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arvind, I think we are indeed on the same page.  In this very small study, I am dealing with my own immediate local and temporal contexts, but trying to keep diachronic and synchronic contexts in the frame. There are, as you suggest, important dynamics of difference across cultures especially in relation to the place that a globalised mass-popular has in each context - and, I would suggest, those dynamics of difference are even more important within each context than is commonly acknowledged.  Totally agree as to &#8216;a highly sophisticated form of coded knowledge&#8217; (as opposed to &#8216;pre-knowledge&#8217; or &#8216;pre-literacy&#8217; as some people would have it) but not so sure about &#8216;unambiguous comprehension&#8217;.  I think it&#8217;s really productive to see the vernacular as a rich site of negotiation and contestation - but it&#8217;s often implicit in ways that the &#8216;rational&#8217; public sphere isn&#8217;t.  Anyway, would love to hear more of your thoughts/examples.</p>
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		<title>By: arvind</title>
		<link>http://creativitymachine.net/2006/07/12/571/#comment-30502</link>
		<dc:creator>arvind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Aug 2006 03:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>coming from india, where vernacular is not equated with pockets of carefully-conserved lifestyles mainly for tourist consumption, but is instead a still-vibrant and thriving form of existence, i would like to submit that vernacular/folk is a highly sophisticated form of coded knowledge that is designed for easy memorization, and unambiguous comprehension. (excuse the very long sentence!) i would like to have your comments on this, and perhaps we can commence a dialogue if we find ourselves on the same side of the metaphorical table!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coming from india, where vernacular is not equated with pockets of carefully-conserved lifestyles mainly for tourist consumption, but is instead a still-vibrant and thriving form of existence, i would like to submit that vernacular/folk is a highly sophisticated form of coded knowledge that is designed for easy memorization, and unambiguous comprehension. (excuse the very long sentence!) i would like to have your comments on this, and perhaps we can commence a dialogue if we find ourselves on the same side of the metaphorical table!</p>
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		<title>By: seb chan</title>
		<link>http://creativitymachine.net/2006/07/12/571/#comment-29990</link>
		<dc:creator>seb chan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may have parallels to Simon Reynolds' concept of 'avant-yob' in music - jungle/hardcore continuum etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may have parallels to Simon Reynolds&#8217; concept of &#8216;avant-yob&#8217; in music - jungle/hardcore continuum etc</p>
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